Private Dancer 7:06 Sat Nov 26
Fidel Castro buys farm
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Age 90. Big news.
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Ronald_antly
7:15 Sat Nov 26
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Why would he need to buy the farm?
I thought he nationalised it years ago.
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Sesar
7:27 Sat Nov 26
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Ronald
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Sven Roeder
7:29 Sat Nov 26
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Was hoping to make it to 100.
Close but no CIGAR
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Coffee
7:41 Sat Nov 26
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Ronald_antly 7:15 Sat Nov 26
Beat me to it.
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sanfrancis-co-uk
7:46 Sat Nov 26
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Good.The bloke was a massive cunt.
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joe royal
8:46 Sat Nov 26
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Communism, responsible for over 100 million deaths.
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Alvin
12:08 Sat Nov 26
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joe royal
you got an estimate for how many capitalism has killed?
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Nicey
12:18 Sat Nov 26
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2016 just doesn't stop giving wealthy liberal elites opportunities to pretend they are marxist - Leninists
Tye outpouring of grieth for a torturer and murderer is concerning.
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The Joker
12:23 Sat Nov 26
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Alvin 12:08 Sat Nov 26
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Hermit Road
12:30 Sat Nov 26
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How many has capitalism killed out of interest? As far as I'm aware capitalism, unlike communism doesn't require people to be killed in order for it to succeed.
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Sven Roeder
12:33 Sat Nov 26
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Ive only listened to some of the bbc coverage , Nicey, but haven't heard much outpouring of grief.
Has Jeremy Corbyn been on later then?
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Silas Greenback
12:44 Sat Nov 26
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The left is willing to overlook his human right's record as much as the right did Pinochet's in Chile. People are like that.
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Hermit Road
12:50 Sat Nov 26
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Pinochet was bad. He also had nothing on Mao, Stalin, Castro, Pol Pot, Lenin, every Soviet and Chinese leader, etc.
You get the picture. Communism explicitly requires violence, it's unsurprising then that it is the most violent ideology ever invented, perhaps rivalled by another ideology that explicitly calls for violence from its followers.
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kips
1:03 Sat Nov 26
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Castro was the last of the great revolutionary leaders and a huge player on the world stage. Nobody has really come close to him over the last 50 years.
Although many despise him, including the U.S.A for almost 60 years, there is no doubting his legacy.
He took over from a corrupt dictator and bought increased living standard to the vast majority of cuba’s population.
He insisted on education for the masses and to this day Cuba has one of the highest literacy rates in the world. Far higher than ours or America.
He introduced his own form of free national health and Cuba have and still produced some of the finest doctors in the world.
He defied the U.S.A for decades in the face of aggression and ongoing sanctions.
True, ex pats and some of the younger generation there will not mourn his passing, but those that remember the mass poverty of Cuba prior to 1959 still hail him as a hero.
R.I.P - Viva le Revolution
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The Joker
1:27 Sat Nov 26
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I'm not defending Communism but it's incredibly naive and blinkered to think Capitalism hasn't also caused millions of deaths.
I think the point is that humans are, on the whole, cunts and will exploit whichever political / economic model for their own ends. These ideologies don't exist in a bubble. Both are fine theories, but like with any system once you introduce independently motivated agents into it I.e. People, they become perverted.
If only it were as simple as Capitalism = good, Communism = bad.
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Hermit Road
1:46 Sat Nov 26
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What deaths has capitalism caused? As in the free market? The point I'd make is that I don't know of capitalist thinkers who explicitly call for the death of people as justifiable collateral damage in order for their ideology to succeed, that contrasts with communism which is reliant on the violent deaths of people to succeed.
One is about aiming towards personal freedom, one is an aim for personal freedom to be subjugated to the will of the leaders. It's no surprise then that one has caused greater numbers of deaths than any other ideology in history, whereas the other has created greater freedoms than any other system.
Capitalism isn't without its flaws, but it doesn't hold a candle to communism when it comes to oppression, death and torture.
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mashed in maryland
1:58 Sat Nov 26
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"If only it were as simple as Capitalism = good, Communism = bad."
It is though.
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mashed in maryland
2:12 Sat Nov 26
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If Capitalism is so shit then why do commies do as much as possible to stop the people living there getting out while capitalist countries face constant dilemmas about regulating the amount of people trying to get in?
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stomper
5:01 Sat Nov 26
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Hermit Road 1:46 Sat Nov 26
What deaths has capitalism caused?
Apart from Bhopal, the occasional collapsing Bangladeshi factory, all the deaths in 19th century factory towns (average lifespan in Manchester = 17 years) it is, as you say a totally benign system.
Capitalism is definitely better than communism, but it is naive in the extreme to think it doesnt cause deaths. It merely exports them.
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Hermit Road
7:08 Sat Nov 26
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I didn't say it was benign, I said it has its faults but wasn't in the same league as communism when it came to oppression, deaths and torture.
In short, you could've just agreed with me.
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